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ChocolateBofIn 2005 the idea of a Chocolate Gathering was floated. This is now the discussion and sign up page for that adventure. The top will have a signup space and a list of meeting options. I expect to revise the main options in this area as ideas come forth. Discussion will follow below that. Unless someone has a better idea, in which case this lead in will get rewritten as well. I have taken a fine chocolate class and studied tasting ideas since last year so that background informs my discussion. (Kurt) Sign Up --SherryHeinze unless it is Monday night --FionaCharles (depending on timing) Meeting Ideas
Times: A dinner. A lunch. 5:00 Monday and/or Tuesday. There are arguments on all sides. For a single meeting there is a the convenience of meeting just once, which allows for better scheduling. The argument against is that your taste buds get overloaded and you miss part of the experience. That can be mitigated by having a longer meeting (an hour or more) and spacing out the tastings, or by providing take home-tasting kits. Milk would go first. Dark after 20-30 minutes. At the end we could share the bring-your-own chocolates and it would not be required to eat them right away. Focusing on single styles, milk or dark, allows people to show up for their favorites. It also allows for a shorter meeting. One tasting idea is to not have had any food recently because it would influence your taste buds. In this case a 5:00 meeting might work well. It would have been a couple hours since snacks and we would be well before dinner or the munchie bar. (parse that!) The clandestine meeting idea has its merits. Chocolate junkies could gather at a table for a meal or in the lobby and share stories, ideas, and chocolates. Bring-Your-Own Chocolate. I think MikeMelendez floated this idea. People can bring a chocolate from their region and we could all share. (The counter to this is me picking out a selection worthy of an educational tasting.) In Mike's area I know he has some noble little toffee sailboats from Harbor Sweets. In Portland Suzy has a very tasty coconut concoction that goes by the name Mt. Hoods (Michelle's Truffles). There are many variations on this theme. Thoughts? Sounds like you're the expert! :-) Wanna stay purist, or would local favorite wines/cheese fit in as well? --SuePetersen 2006.09.12 I am not a wine drinker so I lose all expertise in that area... sort of. I did conduct a small experiment with some Banyuls and a Single Malt scotch. I have a neat trick for any rookie drinker who wants to get whiplash. :-) KurtSimmons 2006.09.13 By the way, since we have a large Canadian contingent, I've heard that if you're crossing the border with chocolates in your possesion, the right answer is that they're for your family's consumption, and are not intended to be given as gifts. For this purpose, you might think of AYE as being an extended family. --Anonymous Chocolate Lover If you cross the border with chocolates for us, we will adopt you right away! (And if you have a Bernard C shop near you can you find out how much you pay up there? They run $50+ a pound down here.) KurtSimmons I always have chocolate for my own consumption - is that not part of the definition of chocoholic? And I have had extended family at AYE since 2000. I have the Bernard Callebaut main store and several others near me, since I live in Calgary and there are at least 2 other Calgarians coming this year. I will check the price and convert to U.S.$ and let you know in a few days. They are not cheap here either. It works out to about $1 Canadian a chocolate, I believe - perhaps $.85 U.S. The rate varies every 7 minutes at my bank. As far as timing goes, I can't come Monday evening, much as I would hate to miss this. SherryHeinze 2006.09.13 My vote is for one meeting, hopefully scheduled around other BOFs. It's hard enough to schedule a single event, let alone multis! I would aim to bring some local chocolates -- probably from J.S. Bonbons (black pepper and tarragon anyone? Actually I hate those, but both the lavender and the coriander & lime are pretty good.) There is also a place called Soma that roasts and shmooshes its own beans. I haven't tried Soma yet, but it gets rave reviews -- and of course the name is wonderful. -- FionaCharles 13-Sep-2006 And a quick trip to and then on to flickr and I see many people taking pictures of chocolate at Soma. It looks like a thoughtful, fancy, and tasty operation. There are silly times I wish I had a private jet. Kurt. DennisCadena 2006.09.14 Kurt, I checked the price here. 440 grams (454 grams is a pound) of Bernard Callebaut chocolates costs $52 Canadian including tax here. So it is cheaper by part of the exchange rate, but that is all. using the best rate I got in August, that would have been $45 U.S. for almost a pound. Not much difference for shipping and the exchange rate. SherryHeinze 2006.09.16 I have some serious questions about this event.
- JerryWeinberg 2006.09.17 Jerry, chocolate is considered by many Canadians to be a food group, so it falls outside laws on pharmaceuticals. SherryHeinze 2006.09.17 I have picketed events, but never been picketed. I'll look forward to the novel experience! What means "considered...to be a food group"? I'm sure chocolate figures largely on Canada's Food Guide. How could it be anything else? -- FionaCharles 17-Sep-2006 You Eskimos don't understand anything. It doesn't matter what you consider a pharmaceutical. What matters is what George Bush considers a pharmaceutical. Or what he considers torture. Or law. It's not okay to think anyting that George thinks is unthinkable. - JerryWeinberg 2006.09.18 What George Bush thinks? Isn't that an oxymoron? Perhaps you meant "what George Bush believes"--He's big on beliefs. When I went across the border in August - last month - nobody asked me about chocolate, or pharmaceuticals either, just about fresh produce, meat and things of value I would be leaving in the States.I don't leave chocolate there, I just eat it. SherryHeinze 2006.09.18 Jerry raised serious issues which need addressing (so I can mail them to someone else to answer).
If you discriminate against Whites, you will be picketed by the Kooks Kovet Kandy - JerryWeinberg 2006.09.19 Wait, Kurt, don't do anything rash. So far, only you, Sue, Fiona and I have indicated any interest in eating chocolate. And I agree with Fiona - it might be fun to be picketed while eating great chocolate. SherryHeinze 2006.09.19 I subscribe to the "White Chocolate is NOT Chocolate" political party, but I'll willingly provide some if it means there's more of the real stuff left for me. :-) --SuePetersen 2006.09.19 I'm a charter member of that party. Did someone say party?? Let's have a chocolate party! Also white (non-)chocolate is disgusting stuff, and I cannot in conscience provide any. How about jelly beans? -- FionaCharles 19-Sep-2006 Only if they are Jelly Belly Factory Seconds (Belly Flops!). I know more about them than I know about chocolate. Or does that ruin my credibility? KurtSimmons 2009.09.20\ I know for certain that Johanna is will show up at any chocolate party. As for me, seeing what snobs are in this group, I think I won't picket, but start a counter-party where we will feast on bean sprouts and sterilized spinach. - JerryWeinberg 2006.09.20 And some NICE tofu -- yum!! Enjoy. (Better autoclave that spinach.) -- FionaCharles (carnivore and chocaholic) 20-Sep-2006 I like the idea of regional tastings. I can certainly bring some chocolate from the Northwest. SusieBrame 9/28/06 If I get myself organized in time, I may be able to bring some really unique chocolate 'business gifts' from one of our trade organizations. :-) I like the idea of a chocolate fountain (with the darkest chocolate possible), if we can afford one. I'm willing to donate towards such a thing. --SuePetersen 2006.09.28 > I may be able to bring some really unique chocolate 'business gifts' from one of our trade organizations. DISCLAIMER: I'm not a chocoholic. I picked up a gift assortment from Harbor Sweets in Salem MA at the conference I attended this week. It includes Sand Dollars, Sweet Sloops, Periwinkles, Sweet Shells, Friendship Sweets, and Barque Sarah. I have no idea what these are. The website is http://www.harborsweets.com The box says "Best if Sold By: Jan 1 07".
DonGray 2006.09.28 I've had Harbor Sweets chocolates. Why yes, Don, I will undertake this particular mission for you. :-) SuePetersen 2006.09.28 At the beginning I mention MikeMelendez and his Harbor Sweets. I am guessing the Sweet Sloops are the Toffee Sailboats I referred to. I'm sure they will be much appreciated Don. (Although I might be seen making off with the sailboats.) The rest of the items are molded milk chocolate in the shape of various harbor creatures. (Or they were in my box). I was walking through Costco today and saw a Regal Chocolate Fountain for $40.00. We may have to pick one up for the conference. I can get good bulk Dark Chocolate in town and bring it along. People could all bow before it. Well, except Jerry, who will be in the courtyard worshipping a palm frond. KurtSimmons 2006.09.28 Them's the ones. The Sweet Sloops are Harbor Sweets signature chocolate. All the others have varying additions to the chocolate. Unfortunately, I won't be at AYE this year having just started a new job. It's amazing what you're willing to let go if you think like a consultant even if you're full time. Make sure you publish the time of the BOF and I'll have a Chocolate feast with my family at the same time, so I can be there in spirit. As an aside, I have no objection to White Confection. After all it contains the second major food group, sugar. But it isn't chocolate. MikeMelendez 2006.09.29 It is only 4 weeks until AYE. So far, the sign up at the top of this page shows 4 names, and Fiona and Dennis sound like they are coming. Many AYE attendees don't hang around the WIKI before the conference. Has anyone thought about how many people we will need to bring chocolates for? I know investing in chocolate is never a waste because you can always eat an over supply. I am thinking that if there are really only a few of us, I could bring more than one variety. Does anyone have a guess on numbers? SherryHeinze 2006.10.6 But it's a whole 4 weeks away! Think what could happen in that time. Worlds could collide!(I've signed up.) -- FionaCharles 6-Oct-2006 If worlds collide, it won't hurt to have signed up:-) SherryHeinze 2006.10.06 Did Fiona say she signed up for worlds colliding? Here is another idea that is fun to play with. Is anyone planning on missing any of the lunches? We could do a mini-tasting before lunch each day. I only mention this because I have been playing with some very interesting tasting ideas comparing bars within a line and across lines. It is quite educational, and you only eat a little bit of chocolate at a pop. Before lunch your palate would be clean and you could get more out of the tasting. This is what I have been doing the most in my recent explorations. The regional idea goes well if we are going with filled chocolates. Those tend to be very local establishments and it is easy to find shops in each person's region. If we are going with filled chocolates we are pretty much signing up for a faceful of chocolate all at once. That lends itself to a single group meeting. For future reference the two paragraphs preceding concern the difference between chocolate (straight) and chocolates (filled). I'll do my best to stick with that vocabulary from here on. And yes, that makes the plural of chocolate chocolate. And as to numbers I would guess an error factor of 2x. Newcomers and impulse shoppers will show up at the last minute, once word gets out. KurtSimmons 2006.10.07 I like white chocolate. For years it was the only chocolate I ate. This winter I took up eating dark chocolate for its pharmacological effects, as I needed some mood-eleveation therapy. Now I am eating milk chocolate purely for pleasure. (I grew up near Hershey, which distorted my relationship with chocolate, I'm sure. All those elementary school field trips to the chocolate factory and associated souvenirs.) Esther 2006.10.08 Esther, I'm glad someone likes white chocolate. :-) If I see anything cool while I'm shopping, I'll grab it for you. --SuePetersen 2006.10.11 Thanks, Sue! ED At least one of the best white chocolate candies can be found in the Phoenix Area. There might even be a second one there too. I will be sure and bring some along. KurtSimmons 2006.10.12 All, I have been out of touch lately, so I hadn't seen this discussion. Nonetheless, I am a low-level chocaholic - gradually increasing my use of the drug! - and I will plan to attend. I can bring something I found in Albuquerque (or maybe talk to our local Albuquerquian) - Chocolate Port. It is Wonderful... I wonder if I can order it to show up at the hotel. I will call them... it would be easier than lugging bottles on the plane. And - being in PA, I could bring some local Hershey chocolate - but somehow, I don't think that really makes the grade. Jerry, the (good) white chocolate up here contains cocoa butter but not cocoa liquor, unlike the "white chocolate" which has no chocolate. Are you allergic to cocoa butter? SherryHeinze 2006.10.13 I stopped in to the Bernard Callebaut main store this morning and discussed which chocolates to bring with one of the staff. I will return just before I leave for the States on November 1st to pick them up. In between, I have to figure out how many to bring. SherryHeinze 2006.10.18 Sherry; There is a Bernard C in Phoenix (Scottsdale). Depending on exchange rates they could be gotten there as well. Chocolates (Sherry)
Although there is that place in Toronto, Soma, that sounds most interesting. Both their chocolate and chocolates have promise. KurtSimmons 2006.10.18 I don't understand the distinction. Could you clarify, plse, Kurt? I'll do my best to get to Soma before I leave, but (my) life is a little crazy, so no guarantees. FionaCharles 18-Oct-2006 Thanks, Kurt, I do know there is one in Scottsdale and we can always get more chocolate or chocolates there:-) It is actually easier for me to pick them up here before I go than to get to Scottsdale after I arrive. SherryHeinze 2006.10.19 Fiona; Chocolate vs. Chocolates: The chocolate world is racing ahead with innovations on two fronts. Dark chocolate in particular is under going a great deal of change that is very similar to the wine industry. People will speak of varietal chocolates and even of years within a variety. Valrhona has a 2002 Chuao bar for example that features top quality beans from a single region in Venezuela. Amedei in Italy makes a bar from a very rare, top-of-the-line bean, called Porcelana. All of these changes lead to a world (literally) of interesting explorations in chocolate alone. Chocolates have also changed considerably. Recchiutti, in San Francisco, is making a really cool tarragon grapefruit truffle. Chocolate Arts in Vancouver has long made a delightful Lemon Basil Truffle. Sea Salt caramels, now the rage, are branching into Grey Sea Salt and Red Sea Salt versions, for example. The explorations in fillings makes for a bank-breaking taste adventure. OK, now I'm drooling too hard to vote! :-) I'll happily do either, although I will try to get some local truffles to bring. --SuePetersen 2006.10.19 I too will happily do either, but we have been talking about chocolates from specific places for quite a while and we already have one box of chocolates coming in from Harbor Sweets, so I voted for chocolates. SherryHeinze 2006.10.19
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